Aug 122013
 

Today is the “Glorious Twelth”, a day when according to tradition hunting enthusiasts gather on moors in Scotland and the north of England to shoot .

Proponents will tell you that that this is an important British tradition.

They will also argue that it is good for Britain’s economy by attracting tourists, providing jobs for thousands of people and generating several £100 millions annually .

Eight Reasons to Oppose Grouse Shooting:

  1. Killing birds for sport is cruel and uncivilised.
  2. A large number of native birds and mammals who interfere with grouse shooting are trapped, poisoned or snared. Victims include stoats, weasels, and even iconic raptors such as hen harriers, red kites and golden eagles.
  3. An unnatural, heather-rich environment is created because the grouse thrive on young heather shoots. To create fresh young shoots, the heather is burned, which can harm wildlife and damage the environment.
  4. The burning of heather, reports an expert, ‘threatens to release millions of tonnes of carbon locked into the peat bogs underpinning the moors. Where burning occurs, the hydrology changes and the peat is open to decomposition and erosion. This strips the moor of carbon as surely as setting fire to the Amazon Forest.’ (Adrian Yallop, New Scientist magazine, 12 August 2006)
  5. The harsh ‘management’ of moorlands causes grouse numbers to boom. But as they overburden the landscape, they become weakened and fall prey to a lethal parasite – Strongylosis. This attacks the gut and leads to a collapse in the population.
  6. A cycle of population boom and bust is the norm on Britain’s grouse moors.
  7. Large quantities of lead shot are discharged, which is toxic to wildlife.
  8. Grouse shooting estates use the Countryside and Rights of Way Act to restrict public access to mountain and moorland.

Eight Reasons to Support Grouse Shooting:

  1. Grouse shooting is carried out with a high level of care and responsibility and is considered by many to be the pinnacle of game shooting.
  2. Careful conservation of grouse moors allows millions of visitors to enjoy access to areas of breathtaking scenery and wildlife.
  3. The management of uplands for grouse shooting is protecting the iconic heather moorland habitat for future generations to enjoy.
  4. Managing heather helps preserve the UK’s biggest carbon store in underlying peat.
  5. Over 60% of England’s nationally protected sites are managed grouse moors.
  6. Heather moorland is rarer than rainforest and threatened globally. The remaining 75% worldwide is in Britain thanks to grouse shooting.
  7. Nationally scarce waders and bird of prey flourish on grouse moors.
  8. Grouse shooting provides the economic engine to pay for conservation management and to maintain employment in remote rural areas. In turn, this employment helps communities and their schools, shops and pubs to survive. Local hotels benefit from shooting parties staying and there are knock-on effects through to garages, gun-shops and a whole range of related businesses, many of which would otherwise struggle.

The Glorious Twelfth is the official starting date for the red grouse shooting season in Scotland and parts of northern England.

The Glorious Twelfth is the official starting date for the shooting season in Scotland and parts of northern England. Photo: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images Europe

“Fox Hunting” was made illegal a couple of years ago and perhaps the time has come when this so-called “sport” should also be banned.

We invite you to vote FOR or AGAINST the continuation of “Grouse Hunting”. Even if you’re not from the UK, please vote and also leave your comments at the bottom of this page.

Should "Grouse Hunting" be allowed to continue?

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References:

Eight Reasons to Oppose Grouse Shooting was published by Animalaid.org.uk
Eight Reasons to Support Grouse Shooting was published by Basc.org.uk

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141 Comments on "POLL: Should the Slaughter of Grouse be allowed to continue?"

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PattieB
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To all of you bloodthirsty apologists. This is why we don’t want your cruel sport
http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/booklets/callingtheshots.pdf

Caroline
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Crispin Worledge. Of course there is a reason to maintain the habitat of wild creatures and that reason is simply because wild creatures deserve protecting from morons with guns. Responsible citizens believe wild creatures should have wild places; they are not “sporting quarry” that need managing. Nature manages very well without human interference and we should be setting aside wild places where killing is prohibited. What a myopic viewpoint Crispin Worledge has and one so typical of those who see nature as something to exploit. Those who are unable to envisage an ecology without human interference are the morons, Crispin.
Heather Watterson
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All grouse-hunters are a bunch of ‘Dahling’ bastards! Hope the winds change at just the right direction!

Affable Fool
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Humans love killing anything that walks. Its outdated, barbaric and pathetic for this to continue. I dont care about your excuses about economy of a town that relies on this at all. Just because something is now doesnt mean it must remain. Human beings who kill for sport are not welcome on this planet anymore, sooner you realise it quicker the change. BAN IT.

Hunt Watch - exposing the animal abusers and the lies they spout.
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Some sick followers on this wildlife page, A habitat can be managed without having to shoot grouse.

John F. Robins
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If it was only about shooting grouse which were then eaten it would be quite straight forward – free-range, organic birds versus factory farmed, chemically raised chickens. But it is not straight forward. Grouse moors are "carefully managed". What that means is that anything which naturally predates on grouse and their eggs and chicks is classed as vermin and keepers try to wipe them out. As for the communities which rely on grouse shooting – that means already wealthy landowners keeping on a few part-time staff to run their shooting lodges and giving beaters some beer money for a few… Read more »
Joya Ghose
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Preservation of a valuable habitat should not be contingent on license to kill.

Martin J Masterman-Lister
Guest

Ban Grouse shooting!

Isabel Reinhards
Guest

We don't need to kill to keep alive and healthy. All animals have the right to live and to live their lives the way they choose. Veganism is an excellent healthy choice.

Bernice Cullimore
Guest

I really cannot believe that this is classed as sport. It is merely a group of people with more money than sense shooting defenseless animals. I know that a lot of business opportunities arise during this fiasco. Surely they could gather and engage in activities that are far more civilised and beneficial to nature. As for maintaining habitat, nature has been far better at it for millions of years, and will always do a far better job than us. We purely destroy and manipulate for greed

Gary Hills
Guest

Ban it, its cruel and serves no purpose. You do not conserve a species by shooting it.

Shooting birds will go the same way as hunting with dogs and its not as far of as some would imagine.

Karina1
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Hunting is what real predators do not thrill seeking dudes with big guns.

Susan Berry
Guest

Killing animals is NOT a sport -BAN IT!

Maureen Ellen McGill
Guest

This barbaric practice must stop, it belongs to a medieval mindset.

Sue Lesmond
Guest

The only good hunter is a DEAD one. Hunt the hunters and lets see how these POS like it. I advocate hunt the hunters travel expeditions. This would indeed very popular and many people myself included would be very interested in participating.

Member

No, no a thousands time NO!

Lynn Juozilaitis
Guest

I oppose the slaughter of Grouse. Sorry if my opinion offends anyone but that's how I feel and I have to say it. I am not judging anyone. Just giving my opinion as this poll was sent to me by a friend. Just like I don't judge anyone for eating meat or fowl. To each his/her own and to thine own self be true. It's not right for me and that's all I'm living by.

Marie Time
Guest

NO !!!! bien sûr !!! ABOLITION de la chasse …………….

Masuduz Zaman
Guest

this torture should stop. Animals dont think of humans as too much and kill us. Why should we control how many animals are in a species. None of them should be endangerd. Because of us, there is too much pollution and global warming. We need to come to our senses.

Aston Rayfield
Guest

Without the grouse who'd look after the Moors, the two go hand in hand.

Evelyn Pendall
Guest

The world needs to learn compassion empathy and respect for ALL animals, learning, awareness is key, trying to live a VEGAN life is what to be proud of NOT being part in any kind of cruelty to innocent sentient beings, God loves his animals its in the Bible, he trusted us with them, but we are greedy selfish and uncaring. we are all born SINNERS, the world is satans play ground.

Brinda C Pillai
Guest

No one has the right to kill! Who gave you that right? Put yourself in the place of the target, would you like to be hunted and killed? Anyway sooner or later you will be the target…As you sow, so shall you reap…

Javier Podavini
Guest

exelent

Tereza Cazzamatta
Guest

Todo ato que prejudica a natureza, flora e fauna é injustificada e não deve ser utilizada pois traz a desumanidade e a destruição. Amemos a criação como parte de nosso corpo e alma e assim estaremos ajudando ao planeta e a nós mesmos, alem de duplicarmos o amor fraternal, solidário e amigo.

Cathy Heathcliff
Guest

God, this is insane.

Angelica Monteiro
Guest

Terrivel…

Felipe Pasqualino
Guest

o jeito é começar a caçar os caçadores!

Les Lloyd
Guest

Agree with you 100%. Lorraine ForAnimals Wardley.

Mary Proctor
Guest

this is cruel to innocent animals and should be banned now.

Vijay Karippil
Guest

All hunting is violence. It is unethical. It is inhuman. It is for God who creates and controls it.. It is not within the power of man to control or kill.sentient beings, the earthlings! God does not supply guns when a child is born! No bloodshed! Peace and justice! Sensibility and compassion! Truth triumphs!

Garner H. Tullis
Guest

Killing men who kill innocent women and children in war is one thing, but killing the innocent wildlife is an entirely different thing for sport which I abhorrently oppose. I stopped hunting any form of wildlife by the age of 15! Vote!

Marilyn Standring
Guest

No it should stop NOW

Monica Marinelli
Guest

L'odio verso gli animali e' la sconfitta dell'intelligenza umana.

Vesna Grublješić Prokopljević
Guest

monstrumi I idioti gadovi.

Florina Mandache
Guest

bestii

Peter Deelen
Guest

En dan zijn er nog (mensen) die dit gewoon vinden de idioten, die moeten ze hetzelfde behandelen als de dieren!

Member

En dan zijn er nog (mensen) die dit heel gewoon vinden de idioten die moesten ze het zelfde lot toedelen!!!!!!!!

Peter Cresswell
Guest

Seems a rather prejudicial title to the debate, slaughter is very evocative hardly neutral.

Andy Cawley
Guest

Keep grouse shooting I say.

Yottie Dulverton
Guest

Absolutely!

James Wills
Guest
In a modern densely populated Britain wildlife and environments need managing. This has been the case with the development of agricultural methods, growing towns, and the destruction of the great forests of Britain over the past centuries. Bowland forest in Lancashire is a good example of this and since 1964 has been a protected AONB and as part of this, grouse are managed and shot. 13% of the AONB is a SSSCI covering these important heather moorlands and bogs. However I would agree that in parts of the world where land is untouched man, such as rainforest, savannah, tundra, environments… Read more »
Ed Bewsher
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One of, if not THE highest producing sources of local jobs and income to otherwise inhabitable rural areas which would be desolate moorland with no outside interest or land management. Remove the raison d'etre of the "grouse moor" and you have wasteland of no commercial or aesthetic value. Before you can say "green votes" they will be plastered in wind turbines. If you really want to see what burning and pollution is doing to the environment have a look at the Baotou region in China where the Neodymium mines for the magnets used in wind turbines are situated! Polls like… Read more »
Paul Frampton
Guest

Grouse shooting is carried out with a high level of care and responsibility and is considered by many to be the pinnacle of game shooting and should be supported.

Torbjörn Augustinsson
Guest

I would like to make a comment on the sixth reason to oppose grouse shooting. A cycle of population boom and bust is the norm here in Sweden for both willow grouse and ptarmigan. This occurs without interference by man.

hugo
Guest

don’t get why people think any one how shoots are barbarians I have been bought up shooting and also keep livestock and love my wildlife and idle rich do you even bloody think before you speak I am joiner by trade a started of labouring at 13 years old and only got paid £15 a day and my mate is a gamekeeper he only lives on the bread line so think before you speak and wildlife doesn’t control itself any more as lack of bigger natural predators

Jim Hinds
Guest

I believe that our society has become so detached from reality that some truly do not realize that in order to eat something it must first be killed. We are omnivores. Living your life as some sort of apology for that is truly beyond any rational understanding.

Josephine Cain
Guest

Killing innocent animals should never be classed as sport it is barbaric:( Gone are the days people used to kill to feed thier families because they had little money.

Craig Lymm
Guest

Until the main and dominant species can become controlled, we will always look at the second problem and not the first 🙁

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